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Since we ALL KNOW, whether any of us choose to BELIEVE OTHERWISE or NOT, that 2+2 HAS-ALWAYS-AND-ONLY, STILL-ALWAYS-AND-ONLY, and WILL-ALWAYS-AND-ONLY equal NO OTHER NUMBER, PAST, PRESENT, AND ETERNALLY 4, how is such DISPROOVEN?
I heard of a first-grade teacher, RIGHT HERE in the US, ACTUALLY being TERMINATED FROM HIS/HER JOB. WHY? Of ALL OF HIS/HER STUDENTS, ONLY THOSE that answered the "2+2" with the CORRECT "EQUALING (4)" won a "TOYS-ARE-US" gift certificate to take home to their parent/parents/guardian/other, while THOSE that answered OTHERWISE, were given POSITIVE NOTES OF ENCOURAGEMENT to "TRY AGAIN" to take to THEIR parent/parents/guardian/other; HE/SHE was FIRED for being "UNFAIR." FIRST, give YOUR feedback, and I'LL give MINE, NEXT.
P.S. The teacher's gender's unknown.
REMINDER: THIS DOES NOT MEAN, by the way, that ALL OF YOU that WILL, contribute YOUR feedback, THEN, I contribute MINE, and then END OF DISCUSSION (IT AIN'T OVER, until GOD says: "IT'S OVER."). It JUST MEANS that IN ADDITION to MY start of it, YOU add to it, I add to it, and SO on, JUST AS it's ALWAYS been in ANY-IF-NOT-ALL of my board-posts.
If I respond to this, do I have to write in run-on sentences?
Bob
No, you don't have to write in run on sentences, but comma splices. lol!
Anyway, I don't think this is right. In elementary school, it's always good to reward children for doing right, for when they learn that they're rewarded for being right, they'll continue to be right. I think that this was an excuse to cover up another reason why the teacher was fired. Teachers of the young always give them rewards like stickers, toys, candy, tickets, coupons, and gift cards. Kids look forward to such things.
I do see one negative effect of this though. Children might start expecting coupons and gift cards every time they do something right. Then when they do something right, they'll always be going: "Where's my toy?" or "Where's my trip to the candy store?" While the reward system works well, some children grow into it, and aren't able to get over it. And that's when misbehavior kicks in because they did right and didn't get some reward for it.
But such is life; there's pros and cons to everything.
I digress. I know I went a little off topic, but you got my perspective on this. The teacher shouldn't have lost their job over something so trivial.
Is there more to this story?
My god chosen idiot, I've a question, do you actually understand the gibberish you post?
He probably does.
I agree with raven basically. It was his right to do it. the district, or state or whatever level that fired him, had no right to do so whatsoever.
Oh, and it's not jibberish, it's quite a good question.
In CASE there are ANY TYPOES that I OVERLOOKED, while PROOFREADING, PLEASE FORGVE ME, but I'm TOTALLY EXHAUSTED, and I CERTAINLY am GOING to BED, so I'LL just SUBMIT THIS AS IS! GOOD NIGHT/MORNING/AFTERNOON/WHATEVER!
To POST 3, ONLY IF YOU WANT, you can, just as ANYONE can, QUITE OBVIOUSLY. POST 4, YOUR contribution DID raise, if NO MORE than one, a VALID POINT, that I MIGHT expound on, whenever; POSTS 5 and 6, what YOUR ass is ETERNALLY KICKED ALL OVER "THE ZONE" for, is that YOU do, which explains, NOT ONLY your adverse responses, but your making yourselves MORE disadvantaged, at MY mercy, as the reason for your "mockable" adverseness. Keep up your EXCELLENT, SELF-DESTROYING JOB, which I'll GLADLY volunteer MY ASSISTANCE to make it VICTORIOUSLY (ONLY in MY favor, of course) WORSE.
NOW, as far as "THE REST OF THE STORY," involving the teacher, students, the employers that fired him/her, ETC., that's ALL the info I got. HOWEVER, the ACTUAL BEYOND-DEPTH of this VERY MATTER as to the VERY ROOT to where ALL of this springs from, is BEST EXPLAINED in this copied message that I got from a site that I'll give the URL to AFTER you read it.
ABSOLUTES VS. RELATIVISM
spiritual revelation or spiritual suicide?
“All these divisions we see on all sides, all these disputes and opposition, are caused because men cling to ritual and outward observances, and forget
the simple, underlying truth. It is the outward practices of religion that are so different, and it is they that cause disputes and enmity -- while the
reality is always the same, and one. The Reality is the Truth, and truth has no division. Truth is God's guidance, it is the light of the world, it is
love, it is mercy. These attributes of truth are also human virtues inspired by the Holy Spirit.” (`Abdu'l-Baha, Paris Talks, pp. 120-121.)
The definition of relative truth- Truth that is true at only one time and at one place. It's true to some people and not to others. It's true now but it
may not have been true in the past and it may not be again in the future, it's always subject to change.
The definition of absolute truth-Whatever is true at one time and at one place is true at all times and at all places. What is true for one person is true
for all people. Truth is true whether we believe it or not. Truth is discovered or it is revealed, it is not invented by a culture or by religious men.
It will also be consistent within its own system and with reality.
There are absolutes we all share in; all of reality proves this. What we find is that the Christian world view is the most consistent with reality. There
is truth and there is falsehood, but one cannot find what they are wrong in unless they have an ultimate standard. God believes in objective truth because
He is that standard.
This is what He has communicated to mankind through the Bible.
Example of absolutes - We all need air to breathe, to live we all need food and water. This is true for all people everywhere at all times. So there are
absolutes we all share that are essential to our existence.
Logically one cannot go forward and backward at the same time. One cannot be dry and wet at the same time, nor physically in two places at the same time.
With belief systems something cannot be true and not true. One must be false, for both cannot be true. In this the Bahá'í fail to recognize contradictions.
They do not deal with the facts, they change them to have them suit there own beliefs.
If a religion claims new truth supersedes the former truth, who's to say that their new truth will not be replaced by even newer truth. This sounds like
God made in the image of man. This shows that if you don't have a set standard for judgment anyone can come along and change the former revelation of God.
THE LAW OF NON-CONTRADICTION
While the Bahá'í position says that all prophets are one progression from the same source, if we refer to the law of non-contradiction we can see how bankrupt
their philosophy is.
Shoghi Effendi “ The fundamental principle enunciated by Bahá'u'lláh. The followers of his faith believe that religious truth is not absolute, but relative,
that divine revelation is a continuous and progressive process, that all the great religions of the world are divine in origin, that their basic principles
are in complete harmony, that their aims and purposes are one and the same, that their teachings are but facets of one truth, that their functions are
complimentary, and that their missions represent successive stages in the spiritual evolution of human society” (Call to the Nations p.11).
This is seems to be an absolute statement. If it is not absolute then they can be wrong. If it is an absolute statement then there are absolute truths.
Either way it's self defeating according to their own philosophy. What Bahá'í does is find statements from all the religions that can be agreed upon
and disregard the teachings that would be barriers. It's a cut and paste religious smorgasbord. To have a universal appeal they reinterpret everyone else’s
religion to fit their own concept of ecumenism. Bahá'í can be classified as a chameleon using each religion's teacher to attract adherents to their own
New World religion.
Christianity teaches God never changes His nature is immutable. Neither does His truth; if God changes you have discarded the monotheistic view of the Judaic
Christian belief. If man's view of God changes he has removed himself from the God who does not change. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and
forever, therefore He is God. Bahá'í's relativism is on a collision course with Christ's absolutism.
What is the criteria for knowing who is a real messenger of God or not? It is up to each one of us to recognize him. Do we need a man like the Bab to tell
us or give us a list? The Bible has already stated in Isa.8:20 “If they do not speak according to this word they have no light in them.” The Spirit of
truth will bear witness to Jesus' words not to another's.
One cannot legally use Jesus to confirm their religious system and then go outside the teachings of Jesus.
Jesus made it simple- there's one God, one book, one way. He did this so even a child can understand and come to know Him. So simple it is ignored, it is
discarded, it is disbelieved by the so called spiritually enlightened to the intelligentsia of our day.
The spirit of our age is “tolerance” which has synthesized all the different religions to be valid. If we bring the relative concept of truth to spiritual
matters, if all religions are true, there would be no false prophets, no idolatry. Even the Bahá'í does not say everyone is true. Yet their tolerancefor
what they accept is at the expense of truth, the truth found in the Bible.
God never changes, neither does His Word. What is true in the past is true in the present and will be true throughout eternity. Jesus said “heaven and
Earth will pass away but my words will last forever.” The reason being they are eternal truth, not like man's wisdom which changes from age to age, culture
to culture, like the Bahá'ís claim.
Unlike any other book the Bible is God breathed. He used various men's personalitys writing down what he wanted to communicate. To be accurate in our interpretation
we must seek what the original author's intent was. Since the Holy Spirit is the ultimate source of the communication it only makes sense that we need
the same Holy Spirit who is the originator of the words written. This is why only Christian's can fully comprehend the Scriptures; you must have the Holy
Spirit to illumine our mind and heart to the words.
This means one must believe they're a sinner to receive Christ as Savior to have the Holy Spirit live inside them. Only then will He guide them into all
truth.
Go to www.letusreason.org for MORE THOROUGHLY-INFORMATIVE topics.
Ok--JUST TO INSURE that we're ALL on the VERY EXACT, ON-POINT, INTERACTIVE PAGE, I'M gonna QUIZ you--out of ALL THE CHILDREN, TAUGHT by the TEACHER that was FIRED, WHO got ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, and WHY (review POST 1)? REMEMBER: the question ISN'T "who DID get," but who DIDN'T, so BEFORE YOU ATTEMPT ANY ANSWER, READ POST 1 COMPLETELY, ATTENTATIVELY, AND THOROUGHLY.
THIS should've been included in the IMMEDIATE-ABOVE, but according to "THE POWERS THAT should've NEVER BEEN," whose "ACCUSATIONAL ARGUMENT (IF there's such a CURRENTLY-USED VINACULAR)" was that he/she "BEHAVED UNFAIRLY," HOW?
I don't even have to review the first post to know that everyone received something. And I don't see how this is unfair behavior.
When several people enter a contest, the winner gets the best or highest possible prize for doing something right, the best, or the fastest. Runners up get prizes too, and everyone else that entered gets the lame notepad, water bottle, or bag, and that's it. Better luck next time!
So if that example sounds perfectly fair to you, it should sound fair to whomever fired this teacher. So how does this teacher rewarding the students, some with better rewards than others, portray unfair behavior? I just don't understand this whole matter. And if anyone was treated unfairly, it was the teacher.
You know, EVEN THOUGH we "BUTTED HEADS" in PRIOR POSTS of mine, this IS, DEFINITELY INDEED, ONE SOLID TIME that YOU AND I ONE-BILLION-PLUS-PERCENT AGREE (VIGOROUS HAND-SHAKE, HIGH-FIVE)! You're ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. NOONE, but NOONE, could even dare to DREAM to be ANY MORE CORRECT THAN THAT, but I CERTAINLY CHALLENGE ANYONE to TRY!
High five back!
Oh, and this is especially unfair to the teacher considering the economy right now. I mean, how many available jobs are out there for teachers? I don't know too much about other states' school districts, but in many school districts around Michigan, teachers are being laid off left and right. It's sad but true, and I can't believe this district just decided to throw another person out on the street for something so pointless. And I'm not saying that this person won't find another job soon, because you never know, some people are more fortunate than others. But it's really difficult to find teaching jobs currently.
EXACTLY. Now LATER, I'm going to post what THEIR argument could've been, as far as THIS WORLD'S SYSTEM goes--and I MIGHT have ANOTHER SIMILAR EXAMPLE that was told to me.
PROBABLE/POSSIBLE REACTIONAL CAUSE: with this EVER-BUT-NOT-FOREVER (THANK GOD) GROWING WORLD-INFESTATION of the VERY ABSOLUTE LIE of "there are NO ABSOLUTES," comes the "TOLLERANCE COVER-UP," as I'D call it, which BASICALLY TEACHES that in order to be "FAIR," 2+2 that DOES equal 4, should ONLY be regarded as a "RELATIVE OPINION," as ALL "ABSOLUTES" ought to be, according to this perpetration. THAT MEANS that ALL of the children should've either gotten ONE or the OTHER of the SAME ITEM, ABSOLUTELY REGARDLESS of HOW 2+2 was answered, BECAUSE "2+2=4" to YOU and/or I, SHOLDN'T/DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN that it HAS to/DOES equal FOUR to ANYONE ELSE, so to "REWARD, according to ABSOLUTISM, instead of according to RELATIVISM," IS "DISCRIMINATION." Mind you, ALTHOUGH ALL DID get a POSITIVE SOMETHING, the VERY FACT that "the TRUTH, shown in LOVE" was in TOTAL VIOLATION of "LIES, disguised as LOVE," as described in the "www.letusreason.org"-above post. SADLY, it was on THOSE GROUNDS, ONLY, that the teacher was fired; CONTRADICTIVELY, despite such claim as "there are NO ABSOLUTES," is QUITE OBVIOUSLY, an ABSOLUTE STATEMENT. Go figure!